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Design Notebook: (Can We Really Know) Who Designed Bethpage Black?
Bethpage Black

Design Notebook: (Can We Really Know) Who Designed Bethpage Black?

Design Notebook: (Can We Really Know) Who Designed Bethpage Black?
September 2025 FEGC Virtual Hangout Recording

September 2025 FEGC Virtual Hangout Recording

September 2025 FEGC Virtual Hangout Recording
Chocolate Drops: The University of Iowa’s Golf Course to Be Reimagined
Finkbine Golf Course

Chocolate Drops: The University of Iowa’s Golf Course to Be Reimagined

Chocolate Drops: The University of Iowa’s Golf Course to Be Reimagined
Chocolate Drops: Good News for a Local Nine-Holer in Ohio
Napoleon Golf Club Ohio

Chocolate Drops: Good News for a Local Nine-Holer in Ohio

Chocolate Drops: Good News for a Local Nine-Holer in Ohio
Weekend Chat: The Final Stretch of 2025

Weekend Chat: The Final Stretch of 2025

Weekend Chat: The Final Stretch of 2025
Chocolate Drops: The Most Important U.S. Public Golf Project of the Decade?
Cobbs Creek Golf Club

Chocolate Drops: The Most Important U.S. Public Golf Project of the Decade?

Chocolate Drops: The Most Important U.S. Public Golf Project of the Decade?
RECENT COMMENTS

Matt Rouches

Sedge Valley
September 24, 2025
Sedge has to be one of them since it varies so much from the other two. Personally, I'd pick Sand Valley as the second as it's a more refined course than Mammoth but you can't go wrong with any combination of these 3 courses.
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Sedge Valley
September 24, 2025
Going to Sand Valley for a day and plan to play 2 of the 3 "public" 18 hole courses. Which 2 of the three - Sand Valley, Sedge, or Mammoth Dunes??
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Dale Miller

Design Notebook Bethpage Black Architect Aw Tillinghast
September 24, 2025
Wow amazing write up Garrett!
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Bob O'Brien

Bethpage Black Setup 2025 Ryder Cup
September 24, 2025
Couldn't agree more on the first tee — also how hard would it really have been to have two separate "stadium" style grandstands around both (proper) 1 Tee and 18 green?
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Jeffrey Lewis

Bethpage State Park Red Course
September 24, 2025
I agree wholeheartedly about the quality of the Red course at Bethpage. I also agree that there is no course in America as badly in need of a restoration as the Black,
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Dale Miller

Bethpage Black Setup 2025 Ryder Cup
September 24, 2025
PJ comin out swingin lol. It's cool getting your insight into the course as someone who grew up on Long Island and has played there before. The topic of rough length. I feel like if it's too high, it because a hack fest and players complain and it diminishes players second shot skill. If the rough is too low though, it could be said in some cases that it makes the course easier, but can show case creativity and second shot skill. So what is the ideal length of rough?
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Mike Ihm

Design Notebook Bethpage Black Architect Aw Tillinghast
September 23, 2025
Why I love Iowa research. The DNR has historical aerials for every decade back to 1930s. Always makes me sad to look at Langfords Oneota. Beautiful 9er blown up to squeeze 18.
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Garrett Morrison

Design Notebook Bethpage Black Architect Aw Tillinghast
September 23, 2025
I think at this point you have to consult the historical aerials and look at whether/when any big routing changes occurred. It would be interesting to hear what James Duncan has to say on the subject. He's a super sharp guy, and it sounds like he'll have to make some tricky choices here. There's definitely a danger in being over-precise in architectural attribution. Listing every architect a club has employed doesn't always get you closer to the truth. Think of Inverness—the Fazios did work there in the 70s, but very few of the changes they made have survived Andrew Green's work. The course is now essentially a Donald Ross-Andrew Green collaboration. We list the Fazios on our course profile right now, but I don't think it's necessary to do so.
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Ben Denison

Design Notebook Bethpage Black Architect Aw Tillinghast
September 23, 2025
Thank god for limited Rees Jones work
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Mike Ihm

Design Notebook Bethpage Black Architect Aw Tillinghast
September 23, 2025
Somerset is a true who knows because it says Raynor eith Stanley Thompson in 50s online. But head pro tild me: -1960s Robert Bruce Harris -1970s: George Cobb/Robert Trent Jones -1980s: Rees Jones (Very Minimal Work) -2000s: Stan Gentry And now JH Duncan. Too many cooks hah.
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