I've done a lot of work for PE folks and I think it's highly dependent on the ownership group. There's a path that would could be great - a firm could view it as at least a partial public good they can also make money on. Though I don't think there are as many firms taking that view as opposed to the cash cow they can flip.

The student twilight rate was unreal - I miss it. Indeed lots of strategy to keep you interested. Make sure next time you go to drive out to Journeyman afterward!

I live just under 2 hours away, but my best friend lives in Mishawaka so we try to play it as much as we can. I'm jealous of the frequency you played! I haven't played it enough to have as much appreciation/knowledge, but it always seems like somewhere you wouldn't get tired of playing.

I played it almost 3x a week for 6 years while a grad student - love that place!! Hole 16 is what got me into GCA when I kept wondering why the longer carry was better on the right!

As someone who lives in Northern IN and loves to play Warren, I'd love more Warren fun facts of the day lol! I did not know that's how it was designed. Fascinating.

It's actually even better, a set of four hole loops that go 6-3-6-3. Fun Warren Course fact of the day is it was designed without par on the scorecard initially. Sadly changed.

I think notre dames course is 3 6 hole loops back to the clubhouse! Coore Crenshaw

Who is your favorite golf architect? And if different who do you think the greatest of all time is?

I’m sorry I missed the chat but well done and I love Will shouting out Derry and NWGC!

I keep thinking about this course that Tom Doak mentioned in an old Fried Egg podcast (in Kenya, I believe). Would a course like this work in the States? 3x3 hole loops back to the clubhouse with barbecue + beers. "But I did see this little, this older golf course, this little thing that was almost abandoned. If you drove by it, you would think nobody plays golf there. You know, the fairways are shaggy. And they're just like sticks with a little ribbon or something for flag sticks. But, and an open air clubhouse with like a barbecue. But it's a nine hole course and it's like three loops of three. You know, you come right back around to the clubhouse, you can come right back around to the clubhouse, you can come right back around to the clubhouse. And the members that were showing us, it's just like a giant party. You never get, every third hole, you stop and have a beer and you have something to eat and then you go play three more holes and you do it again. That's all the, you know, that's the game to them. And it's just, it sounded like a blast. I mean, we were the only ones there that day, but with a bunch of your friends, that would be a perfect way to play golf. And I don't think I've ever seen a golf course laid out like that in the States.” From The Fried Egg Golf Podcast: Yolk with Doak 19: Pete Dye and Bandon vs. Scotland, Feb 26, 2020 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/yolk-with-doak-19-pete-dye-and-bandon-vs-scotland/id1131723994?i=1000466783135&r=278