Seems like a much more interesting course than what I remember from prior US Opens and PGAs, which never interested me at all. I have always heard positive things about the Upper Course. Would be interested to see a feature on that one as well.

I was able to walk this course twice, during each of the last two PGA Championships held here. My impression had always been that it was a long, tough tree-lined slog. I had a hard time remembering individual holes. The photos of the renovation certainly seem to show a course with a much different character than the one I saw. Glad to see you think the changes have been for the better. Always thought the finishing stretch of back-to-back par 5's here was cool. Not something you see everyday.

As to hosting a future Ryder Cup, the PGA of America should probably avoid the New York Metropolitan area.

Its such a fun rabbit hole to go down. I've spent hours breaking down places like Veenker, Waveland and so many small town old courses like Lake View in Chariton.

I love the Iowa DNR site. After moving to Missouri I realized what a treat that had been and how I wish every state had one similar to Iowa's.

Easy solution - TFE staff has a fantasy football league and we build the winning hole in the last place person’s yard (or their parents yard for PJ)

Agreed. Could be a nice annual event, even if the opportunity to actually have the hole created doesn't present itself every year!

I was thinking about it last time I was there. Would be so fun to see the lake

Im not even talking about playability on Woodlands, the Links back 9 would be awesome if got rid of trees hiding the lake views lol

I'm not talking entire property (which I know you're not inferring). Yes a few for lake views would be great. Especially 3 Woodlands. But there are soooo many trees back there. He'll I'd settle for the some left of 1, front left of 2, and overhang one on 8. I do think 10 could be a fun driveable 4 with removal rather than hybrid wedge.