Talk about a fall from grace

It's a valid complaint but it also makes good sense to build one grandstand that will be used most of the day rather than separate grandstands where at least one grandstand is empty at almost all times.

I would do the two OGs, Sedge is great but it needs a couple more years to mature. SV is fully matured and has the best turf at the resort while MD is close behind in that respect while also offering a unique golf experience at the heart beat of the resort.

Agree with Matt. Sand and Sedge.

Sedge has to be one of them since it varies so much from the other two. Personally, I'd pick Sand Valley as the second as it's a more refined course than Mammoth but you can't go wrong with any combination of these 3 courses.

Going to Sand Valley for a day and plan to play 2 of the 3 "public" 18 hole courses. Which 2 of the three - Sand Valley, Sedge, or Mammoth Dunes??

Wow amazing write up Garrett!

Couldn't agree more on the first tee — also how hard would it really have been to have two separate "stadium" style grandstands around both (proper) 1 Tee and 18 green?

I agree wholeheartedly about the quality of the Red course at Bethpage. I also agree that there is no course in America as badly in need of a restoration as the Black,

PJ comin out swingin lol. It's cool getting your insight into the course as someone who grew up on Long Island and has played there before. The topic of rough length. I feel like if it's too high, it because a hack fest and players complain and it diminishes players second shot skill. If the rough is too low though, it could be said in some cases that it makes the course easier, but can show case creativity and second shot skill. So what is the ideal length of rough?