I guess the question that remains is was SP flashier than MP back in the time they were restoring to - indeed both a great trip

I think it's undeniable that Franz went bolder at Southern Pines than he did at Mid Pines. SP has far more bunker acreage than MP (and more waste-area acreage, too, probably?), and its greens a bigger and more busily contoured. Over time, though, as the new features settle in and mature, I'd bet that SP will become more similar to MP and Pine Needles, at least visually. Giving SP a bit more flash was likely an intentional choice, and a valid one. Each of the three courses now offers something unique. I prefer the elegance of MP, but many will prefer the boldness of SP.

Growing up in Ireland and have played most of big courses over my years. I've recently ventured to Scotland for golf trips and can't wait for the next one. There's so much depth there's not much commuting between courses if you stick to a particular area. Have done Fife, Aberdeen and my favorite East Lothian this June. Next on my wishlist is the Highlands and the west coast. Golf in Scotland feels like a pilgrimage can't stop thinking about playing Kilspindie, Musselburgh old and North Berwick. Like going back in time. Of course Ireland has great courses and we are definitely nicer people 😉 but Scotland has something that's good for the golf soul.

And might have the platonic ideal turn hut and 19th hole porch overlooking the 18th. Great way to spend a day.

One question I have is it seems the Franz restoration at Southern Pines is treated as some as way more over the top and critiqued than the one he did at Mid Pines. While I love SP and MP but having only seen both after the restorations, what might explain the different reactions to the work done? Does this say more about each course or about Franz's work?

Great write ups Will. Really enjoyed reading each one. Seems like you had a good experience so much underrated great golf in the area. Look forward to more articles like this in the future.

A great review and one of my absolute favorite spots. I could play there everyday.

Royal County Down, Ardglass and Cruden Bay. Should get RCD done next spring on a short 3 day trip. Would love to one day take the time and get to the far reaches of Scotland/Ireland for some off the beaten path gems.

Hey Will, I've really enjoyed reading through these posts. I love that you included notes about the towns, the pubs, and the history as well. I'm sure if I ever make that bucket list trip to Ireland I'll be coming back to read through them again!

My wife and I traveled all around England and Scotland for our honeymoon. She generously allowed me to play one round in the Heathlands (West Hill) and one near Edinburgh (North Berwick). While both were astounding, those experiences birthed my strong desire to return and see more golf in England. As an outsider, the depth and breadth of accessible, stellar, historic golf architecture seems extraordinary. I am 5+ years away from it, but here are some of the courses on my 'dream 40th birthday trip' across England. Would love any other members' feedback or additions on 'must' visits. Sunningdale (Old and New) Swinley Forest St. Georges Hill Woking Hankley Common Huntercombe Royal Worlington and Newmarket Aldeburgh Royal Cinque Ports Royal St. Georges St. Enodoc East Devon West Sussex