Brett Smith
This is really good. We are going down such a dark path with AI, prediction markets*, big surveillance, lack of regulation.
Has me really close to his unplugging as much as possible from “tech”
Link to commentBen Denison
Here in Vermont in November and April you often get unofficial (or official in a few cases) ski/golf days. Gotta figure how to create a similar combo day in Colorado winter!
Link to commentMatt Rouches
It's been an unusual winter but its typically a lot milder here than most people think. Chicago's winter is 10x worse. Since the sun always shines, it could be 30 and sunny and any recent snow will melt away. You can basically golf every month of the year as there's bound to be a 50+ degree day at any time.
I haven't heard anything outside of golf and rodeos on site so far but I'd assume there's more activities in the plans. I'd think cross country skiiing, hiking, and biking are obvious activities but outside of that its a pretty barren environment. They could manufacture some lakes like Sand Valley I suppose.
Link to commentWill Knights
Very excited for you to attend your first event!
Link to commentJamie Hiteshew
Very excited to take part in my first Fried Egg event!
Link to commentNathan Carr
I wonder if it will feel like Pinehurst. Thistle Dhu, the Cradle, 1, 2, 4, and the practice facility are all in a very walkable space. This is a departure from the "microclimates" at Bandon.
Link to commentMatthew Schoolfield
Uff... yes "prediction markets" are going to be all fun and games until we remember that prediction markets allow you to place a bet on "whether or not your neighbors house will burn down" while you're on your way home from the gas station, with a new gas can, filled to the top. There is a deep problem here that is called "market reflexivity" where there is a feedback between information and action in the market and information and action in the real world. When an individual action can move any market, this will be magnified, and it's genuinely bad for society. This means even if we don't participate in these markets, we will likely be affected by them, and that's a big problem.
I do think there is a bit more here that I would push back on, even if I think we agree. Here, I'm very much an outsider to much of the Fried Egg audience, as I'm not much of a professional sports fan. A big part of that is that, well, as long as profession sports' purpose is "entertainment" and the purpose of gambling is "entertainment" then basically anything is permissible. That, I see, is the underlying issue we're dealing with. There is a cohort that thinks sport is "worth doing the right way" and another group that sort of doesn't care as long as their team wins. This can be seen by an increase in flopping in the NBA along with cheating scandals in the NFL and MLB that go relatively unpunished.
Thankfully, golf has amateur championships. If we care about the love of the game more than we care about the spectacle of it, we can follow those events. It may not be broadcast on television for us to casually consume, but they exist, and are trivially easy to go to when they're in your are. It's not much of a silver lining, but it's there.
Link to commentMatthew Schoolfield
Uff... yes "prediction markets" are going to be all fun and games until we remember that prediction markets allow you to place a bet on "whether or not your neighbors house will burn down" while you're on your way home from the gas station, with a new gas can, filled to the top. There is deeply problem here that is called "market reflexivity" where there is a feedback between information and action in the market and information and action in the real world. When an individual action can move any market, this will be magnified, and it's genuinely bad for society. This means even if we don't participate in these markets, we will likely be affected by them, and that's a big problem.
I do think there is a bit more here that I would push back on, even if I think we agree. Here, I'm very much an outsider to much of the Fried Egg audience, as I'm not much of a professional sports fan. A big part of that is that, well, as long as profession sports' purpose is "entertainment" and the purpose of gambling is "entertainment" then basically anything is permissible. That, I see, is the underlying issue we're dealing with. There is a cohort that thinks sport is "worth doing the right way" and another group that sort of doesn't care as long as their team wins. This can be seen by an increase in flopping in the NBA along with cheating scandals in the NFL and MLB that go relatively unpunished.
Thankfully, golf has amateur championships. If we care about the love of the game more than we care about the spectacle of it, we can follow those events. It may not be broadcast on television for us to casually consume, but they exist, and are trivially easy to go to when they're in your are. It's not much of a silver lining, but it's there.
Link to commentBrett Hochstein
Garrett, I appreciate you giving some light to National Links Trust's national mission. The impact of this current situation (and their existence moving forward) is far greater than what type of renovation project happens at East Potomac.
There's the model to be set by them with their work in DC--something that other municipalities could see and copy--but there's also the direct work with golf courses that you cited, work they want to expand. For example, I've formally spoken myself to Mike McCartin and members of the NLT team on how they could help us with the public courses in Sacramento. They genuinely want to be involved nationally and boost the health of public golf in whatever ways they can. Losing them would be a devastating setback.
Link to commentDaniel Merrick
That’s awesome Wesley. What are you favorites of those?
Also, I can’t recommend Brambles enough. It is very easy to get on in non peak season. You just email the head pro. The experience is one of a kind. You can fly into Sacramento or Sonoma. It’s all you can golf, eat and drink for like $450 but you need a caddie. The course has very few other people playing so you can really have the place to yourself. It’s quirky in a good way and plays hard and fast. The only thing is that the native area is struggling to grow in a little bit right now.
Link to commentDaniel Merrick
That’s awesome Wesley. What are you favorites of those?
Link to commentCameron Hurdus
I know, it's all such a bummer. Hoping some of it can come back!
Link to commentMike Ihm
Wow, figured it'd be a colder/snowy area. I could see it being open weather dependent. Have a 14 day forecast booking window. Has there been any info or talk of more than golf at resort? The winter events at Sand Valley, while pricey are still really fun.
Link to commentMatt Rouches
I'll be curious to see what they do at Rodeo in the winter. A lot of courses around here just open when the weather is good enough and the ground dry enough. It's been in the mid 50s and 60s the past several weeks and even broke a record on Christmas with a 71 degree day. You'd have to think they wouldn't leave revenue on the table when we get winters like this.
Link to commentBen Denison
Like I said in other thread I just hope Schneider knew they were going to use Augusta comparison in press release!
Link to commentBen Denison
Fully agree they are not trying to replicate Augusta, and understand where they are coming from talking about the kind of land and the kind of golf trying to build, just a very high bar! I am more in favor of under promising and over delivering though myself :)
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