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New Jones & FEGC Microsite

In case you missed this news in Sunday's FEGC Digest email, we have a new microsite with Jones Sports Co available exclusively for FEGC members. Access the Jones catalog of backpacks and gear, customize your item with your favorite FEGC logo, and Jones will drop ship your custom order directly to you!

We are all big fans of Jones, and we're thrilled to offer their catalog to FEGC members. To enter the site, use the password "fegcmember". Plus, we've made it so your FEGCMEMBER code will still give you 10% off at checkout.

Check it all out here:

Jones & FEGC Microsite


In case you missed this news in Sunday's FEGC Digest email, we have a new microsite with Jones Sports Co available exclusively for FEGC members. Access the Jones catalog of backpacks and gear, customize your item with your favorite FEGC logo, and Jones will drop ship your custom order directly to you!

We are all big fans of Jones, and we're thrilled to offer their catalog to FEGC members. To enter the site, use the password "fegcmember". Plus, we've made it so your FEGCMEMBER code will still give you 10% off at checkout.

Check it all out here:

Jones & FEGC Microsite


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March 1, 2026
Golfing as a New Parent Advice

Hi Folks,

Soliciting advice from people who've continued their golfing careers after welcoming life into this world. We're expecting our first in early March and I'm wondering what people have found successful as far as continuing their golfing life post-parenthood. I know things will be hectic and crazy the first few weeks/months and the clubs will have to continue collecting dust, but interested to hear what methods people have found successful in the past that don't involve neglecting my partner and newborn child.

Hi Folks,

Soliciting advice from people who've continued their golfing careers after welcoming life into this world. We're expecting our first in early March and I'm wondering what people have found successful as far as continuing their golfing life post-parenthood. I know things will be hectic and crazy the first few weeks/months and the clubs will have to continue collecting dust, but interested to hear what methods people have found successful in the past that don't involve neglecting my partner and newborn child.

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February 5, 2026
Childress Hall

https://youtu.be/U79ISPdj_Ug?si=d2GWYHe_jSfXMU8e

Newest video with Doak at Childress Hall is exceptional stuff. I'm tempted to try and get into the caddie program as my only hopes of ever playing it.

https://youtu.be/U79ISPdj_Ug?si=d2GWYHe_jSfXMU8e

Newest video with Doak at Childress Hall is exceptional stuff. I'm tempted to try and get into the caddie program as my only hopes of ever playing it.

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February 5, 2026
Halfway TGL Power Rankings

Huge upset tonight with Jupe taking down the atl. Still a ton of complaints about the sim being fade bias and wedges going longer than reality. Also next week is Luke Clayton and Neal Shipley for the bay and Tony for LAGC. Seems like the bay cleaned house after the frogs smacked them last week. The inability for them to put out official rosters is hilarious. TGL has to be the most unserious thing in golf right now even with liv existing. Highlight of the night was JT icing kis at the very end and Derrick Stanford telling kis to just go ahead and putt because they’re trying to get off the air.

  1. Frogs 2. Drive 3. NYGC 4. LAGC 5. Jupe 6. Bay

Huge upset tonight with Jupe taking down the atl. Still a ton of complaints about the sim being fade bias and wedges going longer than reality. Also next week is Luke Clayton and Neal Shipley for the bay and Tony for LAGC. Seems like the bay cleaned house after the frogs smacked them last week. The inability for them to put out official rosters is hilarious. TGL has to be the most unserious thing in golf right now even with liv existing. Highlight of the night was JT icing kis at the very end and Derrick Stanford telling kis to just go ahead and putt because they’re trying to get off the air.

  1. Frogs 2. Drive 3. NYGC 4. LAGC 5. Jupe 6. Bay
February 25, 2026
How does PGA Tour equity work?

I doubt that anyone actually knows the details since Strategic Sports Group (the other "SGS") isn't required to disclose details of their investment or their operations.

Let's say a player is given equity in 2025, with an 8yr vesting period. Assume it's $5,000,000 ($5M) of equity, and the PGA Tour says that it's current market value is $5,000,000,000 ($5B).

In a normal business, the options for the equity owner would be:

  1. After 8yrs, the equity would be vested and they could sell it assuming the market value of the company is up and there is a market available to sell the equity.
  2. After 8yrs (or at any time), the company may offer to buy back the equity from the person, with some assumptions of the increased value of the company.
  3. At some point, the original company (A) gets aquired by another company (B), and they are compensated for the vested equity, and potentially given new equity in Company B for the value of the unvested equity.

I'm curious what some of you golf-insiders might have heard about how this equity is being pitched to the players?

  • Since this is a Private Equity investment by SGS, is there an expectation that PGA Tour Enterprises is eventually sold to another entity, hence an equity event occurs?
  • Does SGS eventually plan to buyout all of the PGA Tour?
  • I doubt the plan is to create an IPO for the PGA Tour, as sports leagues are typically not public (ever?), and they aren't a 12 month entity so reporting quarterly earnings would be odd (albeit not impossible)
  • Is there some sort of equity-to-pension equation being pitched to them?Does that become like an accelerated pension redemption schedule?

Just curious if anyone has heard anything about his it's actually supposed to work.

I doubt that anyone actually knows the details since Strategic Sports Group (the other "SGS") isn't required to disclose details of their investment or their operations.

Let's say a player is given equity in 2025, with an 8yr vesting period. Assume it's $5,000,000 ($5M) of equity, and the PGA Tour says that it's current market value is $5,000,000,000 ($5B).

In a normal business, the options for the equity owner would be:

  1. After 8yrs, the equity would be vested and they could sell it assuming the market value of the company is up and there is a market available to sell the equity.
  2. After 8yrs (or at any time), the company may offer to buy back the equity from the person, with some assumptions of the increased value of the company.
  3. At some point, the original company (A) gets aquired by another company (B), and they are compensated for the vested equity, and potentially given new equity in Company B for the value of the unvested equity.

I'm curious what some of you golf-insiders might have heard about how this equity is being pitched to the players?

  • Since this is a Private Equity investment by SGS, is there an expectation that PGA Tour Enterprises is eventually sold to another entity, hence an equity event occurs?
  • Does SGS eventually plan to buyout all of the PGA Tour?
  • I doubt the plan is to create an IPO for the PGA Tour, as sports leagues are typically not public (ever?), and they aren't a 12 month entity so reporting quarterly earnings would be odd (albeit not impossible)
  • Is there some sort of equity-to-pension equation being pitched to them?Does that become like an accelerated pension redemption schedule?

Just curious if anyone has heard anything about his it's actually supposed to work.

February 4, 2026
Recommendations sought for EPIC spring road trip. CA to MI via Route 66

Hello everyone! I am lucky enough to be totally absorbed in planning mode for a truly epic road trip that I am undertaking this April/May. I will be bookending this road trip with TWO Fried Egg Events. On April 25th I will be in Ojai, CA at the Spring Festival enjoying some California sun after a winter in the Idaho Mountains. Fast forward to late May, where you will find me joining the crew for the SW Michigan Trip at Lost Dunes and The Dunes Club. In between I will be travelling the Mother Road, historic Route 66 in my van. Yes, there will be golf along the way, a LOT of golf!

Which brings me to the reason behind this post, I am looking for some help in picking out the courses that I will visit over the course of 20 days or so along the way. I have never played golf in Kansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Illinois, or Indiana, so this is the main area I am seeking some assistance. Below are the courses that I am considering for this adventure, some of which are courses that I have never seen before but know I must on this trip. I am open to suggestions and hope that I get a chance to tee it up with some of you along the way.

Course Names in bold are spots I won’t miss for any reason.

SoCal

Soule Park

• Rustic Canyon

• Goat Hill Park

• Furnace Creek (who can pass up the chance to play the lowest elevation course in the country)

• Torrey Pines North and Rams Hill are potentials

Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas

• Laughlin Ranch

• Somewhere in Flagstaff Area. I have played everywhere in the Sedona area, but I may detour down to play an old favorite, Oak Creek CC and see some friends.

UNM Championship Course is another favorite that I simply can’t miss. I have played extensively in New Mexico so the usual suspects have already been hit, and I will be exploring a few new spots.

• Mary Sanchez Golf Links

• Los Alamos GC

• Twin Warriors and Santa Ana

• Ross Rogers – Wild Horse Course. I may detour for a few days to hit up the Rawls Course and Rockwind Community Links again, but time dependent.

• Childress Hall…A man can dream!!!

Kansas Detour

• I simply will not miss Buffalo Dunes on this trip, so a detour is planned for western Kansas. Southwind is just up the road so it’s probably in as well.

Oklahoma

This is where I really need help, I want to see as much Perry Maxwell as possible, recommendations will be taken seriously!

Dornick Hills is a must for me. Letter has been written and sent!

• Shawnee Elks, Buffalo Rock, and Muskogee GC. How much Maxwell still exist at these spots?

• Jimmy Austin Golf Club and Cherokee Hills look like places I would enjoy.

Missouri

• Carthage GC

• Neosho GC

• Branson Hills GC. I will be skipping Big Cedar and everything there, don’t need a big destination spot on this trip.

• Old Kinderhook

• St. Louis area courses Persimmon Woods GC, Far Oaks, and Annbriar hold some appeal to me.

Illinois and Indiana

I will most likely bypass The Chicago Area in favor of some sweet small-town stops. I would like some recommendations for the Springfield and Champaign area.

Kankakee Elks

• Harrison Hills

• Culver Academy

• Warren Course

• Rock Hollow GC

Michigan

I have played extensively north of Grand Rapids so this trip will not venture up north. I still have a 2000 mile drive home!

Lost Dunes

• Dunes Club

• The Mines

• Diamond Springs

• Point o’ Woods


A little more about this trip. I will be travelling in my Ford Transit van that is fully self-contained. I am open to great camp spots along the way. I am a walking golfer 99% of the time and just love seeing new places. Thanks in advance for any recommendations or help that this group can provide me with. Hopefully I will meet a few of you out on the road!



Course Names in bold are spots I won’t miss for any reason

Hello everyone! I am lucky enough to be totally absorbed in planning mode for a truly epic road trip that I am undertaking this April/May. I will be bookending this road trip with TWO Fried Egg Events. On April 25th I will be in Ojai, CA at the Spring Festival enjoying some California sun after a winter in the Idaho Mountains. Fast forward to late May, where you will find me joining the crew for the SW Michigan Trip at Lost Dunes and The Dunes Club. In between I will be travelling the Mother Road, historic Route 66 in my van. Yes, there will be golf along the way, a LOT of golf!

Which brings me to the reason behind this post, I am looking for some help in picking out the courses that I will visit over the course of 20 days or so along the way. I have never played golf in Kansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Illinois, or Indiana, so this is the main area I am seeking some assistance. Below are the courses that I am considering for this adventure, some of which are courses that I have never seen before but know I must on this trip. I am open to suggestions and hope that I get a chance to tee it up with some of you along the way.

Course Names in bold are spots I won’t miss for any reason.

SoCal

Soule Park

• Rustic Canyon

• Goat Hill Park

• Furnace Creek (who can pass up the chance to play the lowest elevation course in the country)

• Torrey Pines North and Rams Hill are potentials

Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas

• Laughlin Ranch

• Somewhere in Flagstaff Area. I have played everywhere in the Sedona area, but I may detour down to play an old favorite, Oak Creek CC and see some friends.

UNM Championship Course is another favorite that I simply can’t miss. I have played extensively in New Mexico so the usual suspects have already been hit, and I will be exploring a few new spots.

• Mary Sanchez Golf Links

• Los Alamos GC

• Twin Warriors and Santa Ana

• Ross Rogers – Wild Horse Course. I may detour for a few days to hit up the Rawls Course and Rockwind Community Links again, but time dependent.

• Childress Hall…A man can dream!!!

Kansas Detour

• I simply will not miss Buffalo Dunes on this trip, so a detour is planned for western Kansas. Southwind is just up the road so it’s probably in as well.

Oklahoma

This is where I really need help, I want to see as much Perry Maxwell as possible, recommendations will be taken seriously!

Dornick Hills is a must for me. Letter has been written and sent!

• Shawnee Elks, Buffalo Rock, and Muskogee GC. How much Maxwell still exist at these spots?

• Jimmy Austin Golf Club and Cherokee Hills look like places I would enjoy.

Missouri

• Carthage GC

• Neosho GC

• Branson Hills GC. I will be skipping Big Cedar and everything there, don’t need a big destination spot on this trip.

• Old Kinderhook

• St. Louis area courses Persimmon Woods GC, Far Oaks, and Annbriar hold some appeal to me.

Illinois and Indiana

I will most likely bypass The Chicago Area in favor of some sweet small-town stops. I would like some recommendations for the Springfield and Champaign area.

Kankakee Elks

• Harrison Hills

• Culver Academy

• Warren Course

• Rock Hollow GC

Michigan

I have played extensively north of Grand Rapids so this trip will not venture up north. I still have a 2000 mile drive home!

Lost Dunes

• Dunes Club

• The Mines

• Diamond Springs

• Point o’ Woods


A little more about this trip. I will be travelling in my Ford Transit van that is fully self-contained. I am open to great camp spots along the way. I am a walking golfer 99% of the time and just love seeing new places. Thanks in advance for any recommendations or help that this group can provide me with. Hopefully I will meet a few of you out on the road!



Course Names in bold are spots I won’t miss for any reason

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March 1, 2026
The Mixed Bag Mailbag

Mailbag time! The new LPGA season is off and running. Send in your questions about the majors, Solheim Cup, and anything else women's golf adjacent and we'll get to as many as we can on our next episode. Fire away!

Mailbag time! The new LPGA season is off and running. Send in your questions about the majors, Solheim Cup, and anything else women's golf adjacent and we'll get to as many as we can on our next episode. Fire away!

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February 2, 2026
February Virtual Hangout - Wine Chat with Fatcork's Bryan Maletis - 2/11 @ 8:00 p.m. ET

Back by popular demand (largely from myself), February's FEGC Hangout is going to be a wide-ranging wine discussion with Fatcork owner and friend of the program Bryan Maletis. On Wednesday, February 11 at 8:00 p.m. ET, Garrett Morrison and Bryan will have a chat about wines from around the world, including from golf-friendly regions, and make sure you're ready for Valentine's Day.

Also, if you haven't heard, our Hangouts are now available as podcasts! You can find full details on the FEGC Podcast Page.

If you have a topic or question about wine that you'd like discussed, drop it in the comments here.

February Virtual Hangout

Date: Wednesday, February 11

Time: 8:00 p.m. ET

Link to Join Live

Back by popular demand (largely from myself), February's FEGC Hangout is going to be a wide-ranging wine discussion with Fatcork owner and friend of the program Bryan Maletis. On Wednesday, February 11 at 8:00 p.m. ET, Garrett Morrison and Bryan will have a chat about wines from around the world, including from golf-friendly regions, and make sure you're ready for Valentine's Day.

Also, if you haven't heard, our Hangouts are now available as podcasts! You can find full details on the FEGC Podcast Page.

If you have a topic or question about wine that you'd like discussed, drop it in the comments here.

February Virtual Hangout

Date: Wednesday, February 11

Time: 8:00 p.m. ET

Link to Join Live

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February 3, 2026
Michigan Golf - Overrated/Underrated

On my first listen through a classic Yolk with Doak (Episode 11, found here), Tom is asked what are Michigan's most overrated and underrated golf courses. He references a very expensive modern project that didn't quite live up to expectations, but won't name drop the course.

Three questions:

1- What project do you think he's referencing?

  • I'm leaning Arcadia Bluffs

2- Michigan's most over-rated course?

  • I haven't played Bay Harbor but I everything I read, watch and hear is telling me this has got to be it? Green fees are ridiculously high - this course is close to the DNP territory for me just for this reason. This one may be the consensus so interested in other perspectives.

3- Michigan's most under-rated course?

  • Everyone is high on Belvedere, played it for the first time last year and it lived up to every bit of the hype. Deserves to be considered a Top 5 Public play in Michigan.
  • Since that one is too easy - I played Rouge Park (Detroit) in 2025 for the first time. Ended up playing it 3 or 4 times total - pleasantly surprised - engaging layout. Preferred it over Rackham personally and I know that gets all the buzz as far as Muni's in Metro Detroit. A few gimmick holes don't get me wrong, but it was just fun.
  • Also, getting back to Hidden River for the 2nd time in 2026. Played it in 2024 and it was a gem. Feels like secret is out but the setting and routing here I really enjoyed.


On my first listen through a classic Yolk with Doak (Episode 11, found here), Tom is asked what are Michigan's most overrated and underrated golf courses. He references a very expensive modern project that didn't quite live up to expectations, but won't name drop the course.

Three questions:

1- What project do you think he's referencing?

  • I'm leaning Arcadia Bluffs

2- Michigan's most over-rated course?

  • I haven't played Bay Harbor but I everything I read, watch and hear is telling me this has got to be it? Green fees are ridiculously high - this course is close to the DNP territory for me just for this reason. This one may be the consensus so interested in other perspectives.

3- Michigan's most under-rated course?

  • Everyone is high on Belvedere, played it for the first time last year and it lived up to every bit of the hype. Deserves to be considered a Top 5 Public play in Michigan.
  • Since that one is too easy - I played Rouge Park (Detroit) in 2025 for the first time. Ended up playing it 3 or 4 times total - pleasantly surprised - engaging layout. Preferred it over Rackham personally and I know that gets all the buzz as far as Muni's in Metro Detroit. A few gimmick holes don't get me wrong, but it was just fun.
  • Also, getting back to Hidden River for the 2nd time in 2026. Played it in 2024 and it was a gem. Feels like secret is out but the setting and routing here I really enjoyed.


February 7, 2026
Most Hated Athletes

I find myself in Florida this weekend and started looking up Spring Training games. I wound up on the St. Louis Cardinals schedule, a team I have loathed for my entire life. Far and away my most hated sports franchise, and I stewed in that hatred for a little while. While I couldn't decide between Yadier Molina and Adam Wainwright, I decided those two are my least favorite athletes of all time. Aaron Rodgers rounds out the podium.

Curious what others stand out to you all

I find myself in Florida this weekend and started looking up Spring Training games. I wound up on the St. Louis Cardinals schedule, a team I have loathed for my entire life. Far and away my most hated sports franchise, and I stewed in that hatred for a little while. While I couldn't decide between Yadier Molina and Adam Wainwright, I decided those two are my least favorite athletes of all time. Aaron Rodgers rounds out the podium.

Curious what others stand out to you all

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February 4, 2026
Bay Area Skins Game(s) - Date TBD in Feb

I'm looking to organize a (semi)regular FEGC skins game and want to see who's interested before locking in details.

After playing in the Wednesday game at Gleneagles with Matt Schoolfield a few weeks ago, I'm eager to get something going for our group rather than crashing their regular game.

Format: Net game with $20 buy-in, payout on skins. Keeping it simple for now to maximize participation—we can explore other formats (low gross payouts, etc.) once we're established.

Next steps: Reply if you're interested and include your preferred days and courses. Once I know numbers, I'll find a time and place that works for most people. If we get enough interest, we can split into multiple flights (high and low handicaps).

I'm looking to organize a (semi)regular FEGC skins game and want to see who's interested before locking in details.

After playing in the Wednesday game at Gleneagles with Matt Schoolfield a few weeks ago, I'm eager to get something going for our group rather than crashing their regular game.

Format: Net game with $20 buy-in, payout on skins. Keeping it simple for now to maximize participation—we can explore other formats (low gross payouts, etc.) once we're established.

Next steps: Reply if you're interested and include your preferred days and courses. Once I know numbers, I'll find a time and place that works for most people. If we get enough interest, we can split into multiple flights (high and low handicaps).

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March 2, 2026
Moraine CC Event Attendees - June 8, 2026

Coming to our event at Moraine CC on June 8? Jump in here and show yourself! Feel free to hit the "+ Follow" button at the top right of this post to get email updates when someone else posts in here.

You can also join the group WhatsApp Chat

Coming to our event at Moraine CC on June 8? Jump in here and show yourself! Feel free to hit the "+ Follow" button at the top right of this post to get email updates when someone else posts in here.

You can also join the group WhatsApp Chat

January 30, 2026
Dr. Sasho Mackenzie on NLU podcast

I listened to Dr. Sasho Mackenzie's latest appearance on the No Laying Up podcast and came away flabbergasted at some of his positions on equipment rollback, driving distance and course setup. Copying some direct quites below here, and I'll make an earnest effort to try and understand them. Am I just too dumb to understand these positions, or is guy the Tiger Woods of making logical fallacies?

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On the effect slowing down the ball would have on shot shaping: "I want to get back to shot shaping. You know, 'I like watching that player hit the one iron into the wind and, you know, curve it around the corner.' And so do I. I think that's really important. Slowing down the ball will actually, I believe, remove that, unfortunately."

If I understand it correctly, his belief seems to stem from the claim that players do not currently optimize their swing speeds to hit it as far as possible, but to optimize Strokes Gained at specific course setups. He uses the example of the 18th at TPC Sawgrass and claims there's apparently a certain, optimal place in the fairway to hit it based on weighing expected Strokes Gained and expected tee shot dispersion. For a longer player like Xander Schauffele that means hitting a hybrid to that spot, while for a shorter player like Brian Harman that means hitting a driver. Therefore, if the ball was slowed down, Xander would be hitting a driver to that spot and Brian Harman wouldn't even be able to reach it (and players of his type/skillset would become obsolete).

Isn't this exactly the point? By slowing down the ball you reduce the scale of the dispersion pattern, thus placing the specific challenges presented by the course, such as bunkers or hazards, in context of how far players can hit it.

On what the players' response to a slowed down ball would be: "So I think you will see if you slow the ball down, that little bit they're slowing it down, you will see a lot of players overnight instantly jack up their clubhead speed to start getting the ball to go back to that distance."

Again, the claim is that players aren't currently speed training/optimizing to hit it as far as possible, but to be optimized for the ways courses are set up on Tour. As a very obviously smart guy who works closely with Tour players, I have to think he's got good reason to believe this, but I find that very hard to believe. Is he saying that, if he wanted to, Matt Fitzpatrick could overnight possess a 200 mph ball speed, and that the reason he doesn't is because that wouldn't fit Tour courses? Isn't the reason that 200 mph ball speed wouldn't fit these courses precisely because with increasing speed comes increasing variance in dispersion? And isn't that tradeoff between maximizing distance and accuracy inherent to golf course strategy?

On slowing the effect of slowing the ball down would have on player types in elite competition: "And what we don't want to do is slow the ball down to a point where now we're just self-selecting for guys who can absolutely rip the cover off it."

Agreed! His position seems to be that if the ball was slowed down and courses played like the TPC Sawgrass example above, players who can then drive it into the area that optimizes for Strokes Gained would have a significant advantage, which, I also agree with.

But again, that position seems to be supported by a belief that there would be no loss in accuracy for players who optimize their swing speed hit it there. In other words, with a slowed down ball Xander Schauffele could simply hit his driver not only the same distance he currently hits his hybrid, but with the same level of dispersion. If this is true and players can simply add more speed without a loss in accuracy, why wouldn't more players just do that now? And if the argument for that is because current PGA Tour courses are set up to defend against that strategy... I find that hard to believe.

He cites "dozens of Michael Brennans" being out there who could take advantage of such a change, which, having watched Michael compete alongside other elite players at the course where I work each of the last two years, is very funny to me. That guy is a rare breed.

One of his supporting pieces of evidence seems to be well-known idea that Tony Finau can swing the driver at 135 mph when he really wants to, but instead chooses to swing at 120 mph while playing on Tour. Are we supposed to believe that the reason he does that is because if he swung at 135 mph, he'd simply be hitting it in places that aren't optimal on Tour courses? Isn't the actual reason he doesn't swing at 135 mph on Tour because doing so would make it incredibly difficult to keep the ball on the planet, not to mention that it would come at a steep cost to his physical health and longevity?

Again, this position seems to be anchored by the belief that players gaining speed is not the product of hard-earned training and skill development, but simply adjustments in optimization targets. I find the idea that players simply could learn to swing it faster without any adverse impacts on their ability to hit it straight, not to mention their skills and health, really tough to believe.

On course setup: "I would like more exploration into course setups in ways that don't impact the way the hole is supposed to be played."

He seems to be in favour of carefully selected trees or other obstacles that don't affect the 'normal' way a hole is played, but protect them from being played in unconventional ways. He cites Bryson's famous drive over the lake on No. 6 at Bay Hill, suggesting that perhaps it would be better if there were a tree that prevented him from being able to hit it on that line, but did not affect the player hitting their drive on a more conventional line.

Agronomic and aesthetic concerns aside, dictating that a hole must be played a certain way using arbitrary obstacles and hazards? Yuck! He also cites vague examples of Open Championship courses, which present increasingly dangerous rough, bunkers or other hazards the further up the hole you hit it. It's at this point of the interview I think it is clear that Dr. Mackenzie (and others like him) views the sport as a technical challenge, where the question posed to players is about how well they get reliably get from A to B, and not at all about the route they choose to get there. Strategy is a linear, 'how far can I attempt to hit it until the returns begin to diminish' question, not one of position and tact and ingenuity.

I would argue that the reason we want to see more emphasis placed on shotmaking and strategy, such as the 'one iron into the wind' example he mentions above, is NOT because we want to see players who hit that shot because it's the optimal one to gain strokes versus their competitors, but because being able to hit that shot allows a player to access targets that otherwise can't be reached. And, that the farther players hit the ball and the shorter their approaches are into the green, the more those skills are diminished. I am obviously not alone in this belief, and it's quite easy to find this position among the USGA's Distance Insights report. Which brings me to...

On the role of the USGA and R&A in implementing an equipment rollback: "My biggest problem with the USGA and R&A is that they don't really have any skin in the game, but they impose these rules."

I had to take out my earbuds and put away my phone upon hearing this and don't think I can bear to write a response.

--

Am I willfully misunderstanding Dr. Mackenzie because he's going against the grain of my pro-rollback priors? Is there something I'm really just not getting here? Or is this just the position of someone who's a master of one aspect of the game and is blind to the others?

I listened to Dr. Sasho Mackenzie's latest appearance on the No Laying Up podcast and came away flabbergasted at some of his positions on equipment rollback, driving distance and course setup. Copying some direct quites below here, and I'll make an earnest effort to try and understand them. Am I just too dumb to understand these positions, or is guy the Tiger Woods of making logical fallacies?

--

On the effect slowing down the ball would have on shot shaping: "I want to get back to shot shaping. You know, 'I like watching that player hit the one iron into the wind and, you know, curve it around the corner.' And so do I. I think that's really important. Slowing down the ball will actually, I believe, remove that, unfortunately."

If I understand it correctly, his belief seems to stem from the claim that players do not currently optimize their swing speeds to hit it as far as possible, but to optimize Strokes Gained at specific course setups. He uses the example of the 18th at TPC Sawgrass and claims there's apparently a certain, optimal place in the fairway to hit it based on weighing expected Strokes Gained and expected tee shot dispersion. For a longer player like Xander Schauffele that means hitting a hybrid to that spot, while for a shorter player like Brian Harman that means hitting a driver. Therefore, if the ball was slowed down, Xander would be hitting a driver to that spot and Brian Harman wouldn't even be able to reach it (and players of his type/skillset would become obsolete).

Isn't this exactly the point? By slowing down the ball you reduce the scale of the dispersion pattern, thus placing the specific challenges presented by the course, such as bunkers or hazards, in context of how far players can hit it.

On what the players' response to a slowed down ball would be: "So I think you will see if you slow the ball down, that little bit they're slowing it down, you will see a lot of players overnight instantly jack up their clubhead speed to start getting the ball to go back to that distance."

Again, the claim is that players aren't currently speed training/optimizing to hit it as far as possible, but to be optimized for the ways courses are set up on Tour. As a very obviously smart guy who works closely with Tour players, I have to think he's got good reason to believe this, but I find that very hard to believe. Is he saying that, if he wanted to, Matt Fitzpatrick could overnight possess a 200 mph ball speed, and that the reason he doesn't is because that wouldn't fit Tour courses? Isn't the reason that 200 mph ball speed wouldn't fit these courses precisely because with increasing speed comes increasing variance in dispersion? And isn't that tradeoff between maximizing distance and accuracy inherent to golf course strategy?

On slowing the effect of slowing the ball down would have on player types in elite competition: "And what we don't want to do is slow the ball down to a point where now we're just self-selecting for guys who can absolutely rip the cover off it."

Agreed! His position seems to be that if the ball was slowed down and courses played like the TPC Sawgrass example above, players who can then drive it into the area that optimizes for Strokes Gained would have a significant advantage, which, I also agree with.

But again, that position seems to be supported by a belief that there would be no loss in accuracy for players who optimize their swing speed hit it there. In other words, with a slowed down ball Xander Schauffele could simply hit his driver not only the same distance he currently hits his hybrid, but with the same level of dispersion. If this is true and players can simply add more speed without a loss in accuracy, why wouldn't more players just do that now? And if the argument for that is because current PGA Tour courses are set up to defend against that strategy... I find that hard to believe.

He cites "dozens of Michael Brennans" being out there who could take advantage of such a change, which, having watched Michael compete alongside other elite players at the course where I work each of the last two years, is very funny to me. That guy is a rare breed.

One of his supporting pieces of evidence seems to be well-known idea that Tony Finau can swing the driver at 135 mph when he really wants to, but instead chooses to swing at 120 mph while playing on Tour. Are we supposed to believe that the reason he does that is because if he swung at 135 mph, he'd simply be hitting it in places that aren't optimal on Tour courses? Isn't the actual reason he doesn't swing at 135 mph on Tour because doing so would make it incredibly difficult to keep the ball on the planet, not to mention that it would come at a steep cost to his physical health and longevity?

Again, this position seems to be anchored by the belief that players gaining speed is not the product of hard-earned training and skill development, but simply adjustments in optimization targets. I find the idea that players simply could learn to swing it faster without any adverse impacts on their ability to hit it straight, not to mention their skills and health, really tough to believe.

On course setup: "I would like more exploration into course setups in ways that don't impact the way the hole is supposed to be played."

He seems to be in favour of carefully selected trees or other obstacles that don't affect the 'normal' way a hole is played, but protect them from being played in unconventional ways. He cites Bryson's famous drive over the lake on No. 6 at Bay Hill, suggesting that perhaps it would be better if there were a tree that prevented him from being able to hit it on that line, but did not affect the player hitting their drive on a more conventional line.

Agronomic and aesthetic concerns aside, dictating that a hole must be played a certain way using arbitrary obstacles and hazards? Yuck! He also cites vague examples of Open Championship courses, which present increasingly dangerous rough, bunkers or other hazards the further up the hole you hit it. It's at this point of the interview I think it is clear that Dr. Mackenzie (and others like him) views the sport as a technical challenge, where the question posed to players is about how well they get reliably get from A to B, and not at all about the route they choose to get there. Strategy is a linear, 'how far can I attempt to hit it until the returns begin to diminish' question, not one of position and tact and ingenuity.

I would argue that the reason we want to see more emphasis placed on shotmaking and strategy, such as the 'one iron into the wind' example he mentions above, is NOT because we want to see players who hit that shot because it's the optimal one to gain strokes versus their competitors, but because being able to hit that shot allows a player to access targets that otherwise can't be reached. And, that the farther players hit the ball and the shorter their approaches are into the green, the more those skills are diminished. I am obviously not alone in this belief, and it's quite easy to find this position among the USGA's Distance Insights report. Which brings me to...

On the role of the USGA and R&A in implementing an equipment rollback: "My biggest problem with the USGA and R&A is that they don't really have any skin in the game, but they impose these rules."

I had to take out my earbuds and put away my phone upon hearing this and don't think I can bear to write a response.

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Am I willfully misunderstanding Dr. Mackenzie because he's going against the grain of my pro-rollback priors? Is there something I'm really just not getting here? Or is this just the position of someone who's a master of one aspect of the game and is blind to the others?

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February 2, 2026
A course transitioning to walking and hickory clubs only

This is a neat little story about Keweenaw Mountain Lodge taking its golf course to walking and hickory clubs only!

https://keweenawmountainlodge.com/2025/10/21/a-hickory-only-and-walking-only-golf-course/

I have looked at this course a ton on google maps through the years because of its locale way up in the UP of Michigan, one of my favorite escapes in the country.

It makes me wonder what other courses I would love to see adopt this. One that jumps out is Northwood GC in California.

What are some others?

This is a neat little story about Keweenaw Mountain Lodge taking its golf course to walking and hickory clubs only!

https://keweenawmountainlodge.com/2025/10/21/a-hickory-only-and-walking-only-golf-course/

I have looked at this course a ton on google maps through the years because of its locale way up in the UP of Michigan, one of my favorite escapes in the country.

It makes me wonder what other courses I would love to see adopt this. One that jumps out is Northwood GC in California.

What are some others?

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February 1, 2026
Course Rating

Hello FEGC! I'm curious is if any FEGC members are course raters through their local golf association. For example, I volunteered to be a GAM Course Rater through the golf association of Michigan. I'm wondering if anyone is currently doing it or has done it in the past and would be able to provide some insight into the training and what a day looks like when rating a course. I'm eager to hear what the experience was like for others, especially in states out side of Michigan.

Hello FEGC! I'm curious is if any FEGC members are course raters through their local golf association. For example, I volunteered to be a GAM Course Rater through the golf association of Michigan. I'm wondering if anyone is currently doing it or has done it in the past and would be able to provide some insight into the training and what a day looks like when rating a course. I'm eager to hear what the experience was like for others, especially in states out side of Michigan.

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February 3, 2026
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